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  Theft of Reminiscing

  by rebel8 in

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  so i'm now at the developmental stage of adulthood when my peers and i are beginning to reminisce about our childhoods.

  if you've ever taken developmental psychology, you know the importance of reminiscing.

  yesterday i went to an event about something retro and participants were really nostalgic and just really enjoying themselves.

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  Nathan Natas

  That's known as "Stockholm Syndrome," scotoma.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Couple died in murder suicide

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.suffolknewsherald.com/2013/07/25/couple-died-in-murder-suicide-police-say/.

  july 25 2013. couple died in murder-suicide, police say.

  suffolk police say the couple found dead in their nansemond river drive home wednesday were victims of a murder-suicide.. they have been identified as lucy celenia perry, 67, and her husband dennis joseph perry, 64.. autopsies showed dennis perry shot his wife before turning the gun on himself, city spokeswoman diana klink said in a press release.

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  At what age does a JW become incapable of accepting the truth about the truth?

  Teenage JWs commit suicide. Do I bear bloodguilt for them? Do YOU?

  Is there ANY point at which a person becomes solely responsible for their own self-damaging actions?

  Telling a person TTaTT is not pulling the trigger on their gun or opening the valve on their helium tank or making them swallow barbiturates.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Couple died in murder suicide

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.suffolknewsherald.com/2013/07/25/couple-died-in-murder-suicide-police-say/.

  july 25 2013. couple died in murder-suicide, police say.

  suffolk police say the couple found dead in their nansemond river drive home wednesday were victims of a murder-suicide.. they have been identified as lucy celenia perry, 67, and her husband dennis joseph perry, 64.. autopsies showed dennis perry shot his wife before turning the gun on himself, city spokeswoman diana klink said in a press release.

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  Vidiot said, " One of the reasons why the majority of us don't advocate exposing the WTS's flaws to senior citizen JWs."

  The reason I disagree with that policy is two-fold:

  1. IGNORANCE is not bliss. It is always possible that the senior citizen JW will APPRECIATE TTaTT, even though such truth destroys their former illusions.

  2. The WATCHTOWER wants nothing more than to seize the assets and estates of those they have LIED to. Your plan facilitates that evil.
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  WT destroying old literature

  by startingover in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was approached by an elder about a year ago asking what i am going to do with my large collection of wt literature.

  he told me the society had put word out that they were collecting old literature.

  i asked him why but he couldn't give me a definite answer.

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  A person I know has employed her own method of preserving these venerable old "scrolls." She visits the Kingdom Hall during meetings to do a bit of research in the Kingdom Hall library. She finishes her research and exits the KH discreetly before the meeting concludes. When she gets home she discovers that some publications sought refuge in her capacious handbag. She has "received freely" an extensive collection of "free Bible literature." I completely approve of her stealthy methodology; it is utterly harmonious with the life-saving Noah-like educational work of the WTB&TS.

  Persons who find that their trust in Watchtower dogma has left them economically disadvantaged may find this method helpful in supplementing their income - the "life-saving truths" can be further distributed to other seekers of truth via eBay or other internet vendor stalls. Jehovah jireh and all that, y'know.

  Plunder them, sack them. Take the silverware from Jah's feast-table.
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  WT destroying old literature

  by startingover in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was approached by an elder about a year ago asking what i am going to do with my large collection of wt literature.

  he told me the society had put word out that they were collecting old literature.

  i asked him why but he couldn't give me a definite answer.

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  o damn.

  How would the Master prefer to be addressed? Would "Mr. Bonds" be sufficient? If you have no immediate need for me, Sir, I shall be polishing your shoes...
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  WT destroying old literature

  by startingover in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was approached by an elder about a year ago asking what i am going to do with my large collection of wt literature.

  he told me the society had put word out that they were collecting old literature.

  i asked him why but he couldn't give me a definite answer.

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  Barrold, I beg to differ with you.

  I will admit that I have not been in a KH library for more than 40 years (time flies when you're living your life!), but if you were able to find ANY of Russell's or Rutherfod's crap in ANY KH library ANYWHERE, I would be gobsmacked, stunned, and would be obligated to be your butler for a time, times, and half a time.
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  interesting Rumour

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
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  i heard a rumour today to the effect that there is a new gb member in his late twenties/early thirties.

  i stress that this is unsubtantiated and requires confirmation or quashing.. can anyone confirm or definately deny it?.

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  Here he is, being not tempted by evil:

  
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  Every so often I receive a very uncomplimentary email thru my website from a JW. Want to read it?

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  their email address is: xxxxx.

  and their message is:.

  you probably would say, 'i didn't abandon him, i can still serve him on my own.

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  Dear Barb,

  There are crackpots in the world and some of them know how to use email.

  Please don't take their criticisms to heart or let them detract one iota from your peace of mind, self-respect and joy. We have spoken many times and shared secrets that still are secret. I admire and have great affection for both you and Joe (my bravest t-shirt model, among many other things).

  I wish the OTHER Barbara - Barbara G. Harrison were still with us. You'se Nu Yawkas would be great together in panel discussions!

  Unlike some who pave the road ahead of them with promises broken and confidences betrayed, you have always been a person of integrity and conscience; that is how you were compelled to get involved in this exhausting and often thankless work.

  There is ONLY ONE Barb Anderson, and she is on OUR SIDE!

  I am now going to take the bold step of borrowing the lyrics of The Artist Formerly Known As Prince, who wrote,

  "Nothing Compares 2 U"

  Best wishes,

  - NN
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Couple died in murder suicide

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.suffolknewsherald.com/2013/07/25/couple-died-in-murder-suicide-police-say/.

  july 25 2013. couple died in murder-suicide, police say.

  suffolk police say the couple found dead in their nansemond river drive home wednesday were victims of a murder-suicide.. they have been identified as lucy celenia perry, 67, and her husband dennis joseph perry, 64.. autopsies showed dennis perry shot his wife before turning the gun on himself, city spokeswoman diana klink said in a press release.

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  Baron von Finkelstein said, " This could have happened to any married couple irregardless of their particular religious conviction."

  Could have.

  But the people it did happen to were among the "happiest" (read: "most-lied-to") people on earth, God's "Special Ones", the "apple of his eye."

  We ought not defend prevaricators or pretend they have no victims.

  "BANG!" said Jehovah.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Couple died in murder suicide

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.suffolknewsherald.com/2013/07/25/couple-died-in-murder-suicide-police-say/.

  july 25 2013. couple died in murder-suicide, police say.

  suffolk police say the couple found dead in their nansemond river drive home wednesday were victims of a murder-suicide.. they have been identified as lucy celenia perry, 67, and her husband dennis joseph perry, 64.. autopsies showed dennis perry shot his wife before turning the gun on himself, city spokeswoman diana klink said in a press release.

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  Rebel8 asked, " So shooting someone is not foul play?"

  In my opinion, if they are a consenting adult, it could be an act of mercy. I don't agree with the dogma that extended suffering refines the soul. We do not have souls, and we are not souls. We are made of meat and we are born, suffer, and die like meat. Suicide can be a rational way to cheat the reaper.

  Dennis and Lucy probably realized that their religion had lied to them and tricked them into believing a fairy-tale. With no everlasting life in Paradise as restored vital young adults to look forward to, they were lefy staring at the unspeakable horror of disease and decrepitude laid out like a banquet-table before them.

  "Eat your fill," ghod said to the banquet-table. The table snarled in silent reply.